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Re: It was a dark and stormy [READING THREAD]

Post by Ransom » Wed Nov 19, 2008 05:08

Are you kidding? Eldest was worse. Half the book was filler and Paolini somehow managed to be guilty of more amateur writing mistakes rather than less.

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Post by Juggernaut » Fri Nov 21, 2008 02:04

i didnt say it was great but it was ok aha
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Post by Ransom » Fri Nov 21, 2008 05:17

It's not okay. It's crap.

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Post by mongoose_01 » Fri Nov 21, 2008 20:36

THANK YOU my god eragon has been so highly praised by everybody
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Post by Juggernaut » Sat Nov 22, 2008 22:04

the only part i liked about eldest was when that guy turned out to be eragons brother


really didnt see that coming
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Post by Ransom » Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:01

Well I finished the second Doom book and my feelings are mixed. The first one was just mindless fun, but this one adds more characters and therefore more drama and the results are varied.

Rant ahoy!
On the plus side it's a better paced story. Which is to say, it's not a 200 page action scene. Unfortunately the writers seemed to think that it would be a good idea to start throwing their religious beliefs all over the place and that's basically what the books is about. There's three main characters: a Christian Marine and his atheist female sidekick (who is also a marine) and a Mormon soldier or something. Just about every few pages either the Mormon or the Christian comment in some way on the atheism of the female lead and it really starts to grate. Her atheism is seen as something to be 'fixed' by both characters, and obviously the authors as well, who demonstrate on more than one occasion that they don't actually understand what atheism means, particularly when they suggest that being an atheist means redemption is an alien concept to youghkgjdlgfdgFFFFFF.

Her character gets royally messed up by the whole affair. She somehow falls in love with the Mormon, which never really makes much sense and is a blatant case of authorly meddling. Then Captain Christian starts trying to 'help her find God' because it will help her in that relationship. Jesus fucking Christ. I wondered if this was just the authors being clever and letting their characters show their flaws, but the atheist never makes any comment on any of this. Either the authors wanted there to be conflict but didn't have a clue how an atheist would respond to this kind of behaviour, or they purposefully omitted it because it didn't fit with the direction they wanted the character to take.

What's worse is there doesn't seem to be any point to it. Apparently they made her an atheist just so they could convert her over the course of the series - it has zero relevance to the plot or really anything in the story and it just feels completely preachy and misplaced.

I know I'm overreacting to this, but if I wanted ridiculously one-sided religious commentary I'd read the fucking God Delusion or something. It's supposed to be a silly sci-fi action novel.
tl;dr - Better paced, but full of preachy religious bullshit.

Now I am reading Richard Morgan's The Black Man. Is the main character black? Let's find out!

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Post by mongoose_01 » Fri Nov 28, 2008 20:48

Next on my list:

A Clockwork Orange, then maybe Mein Kampf. Seriously now. I want to know what Hitler thought without reading it from the side of the victors. But to be honest, I'll just tl;dr it and assume he was really anti-semitic.
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Re: It was a dark and stormy [READING THREAD]

Post by Aliens » Fri Nov 28, 2008 20:56

I want to read The Jungle and Death of a Salesman.

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Post by Mr. Smith » Fri Nov 28, 2008 22:25

Just read The Lost World.
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Post by Cowardly » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:46

mongoose_01 wrote:Next on my list:

A Clockwork Orange, then maybe Mein Kampf. Seriously now. I want to know what Hitler thought without reading it from the side of the victors. But to be honest, I'll just tl;dr it and assume he was really anti-semitic.
I had the luck to read some of mein kampf in the history course i took last year.

It is awfully written. It is one long confused rant and has as many contradictions as the bible. Hitler was fucking crazy.

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Post by mongoose_01 » Sun Nov 30, 2008 09:47

Chill wrote:
mongoose_01 wrote:Next on my list:

A Clockwork Orange, then maybe Mein Kampf. Seriously now. I want to know what Hitler thought without reading it from the side of the victors. But to be honest, I'll just tl;dr it and assume he was really anti-semitic.
I had the luck to read some of mein kampf in the history course i took last year.

It is awfully written. It is one long confused rant and has as many contradictions as the bible. Hitler was fucking crazy.
yeaah that's why it would be interesting
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Re: It was a dark and stormy [READING THREAD]

Post by Juggernaut » Sun Jan 11, 2009 22:19

has any one read any books by Ken Follett?


i've been reading pillars of the earth and it is probably the best written book i have ever read
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Post by Thatoneguy » Mon Jan 12, 2009 02:35

No I have been reading Brent Weeks and the "night angel" trilogy. On the third book. They are amazing and by an unknown author, (these are his only books) very cleverly written too :shhh:
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Re: It was a dark and stormy [READING THREAD]

Post by Ransom » Tue Jan 13, 2009 13:43

BOOK REPORT WEEEOOO WEEEOOOO

Finished Black Man. Some good moments, fairly solid writing, average plot that was too heavy on the exposition for my liking. Ridiculous out-of-place sex scenes. I mean I am all for a decent sex scene if it's relevant to the story or character development, and these were, but they played out like smut. Goofy, porn-flick style stuff. It wasn't really a huge sticking point (HURR HURRRR) but it did feel over the top.

Also read my first Paul Auster novel, Tales in the Scriptorium. Not bad. Very well written. It's quite an experimental narrative written in an equally experimental style. Doesn't outstay its welcome at 100-something pages. It's hard to describe the premise, so I won't bother. You faggots won't read this anyway. >:(

And now I'm reading 'Salem's Lot and The Dark Tower V, both by Stephen King. Very much enjoying them both, although the former is more engaging and has great pacing so far.

Any King fans around here?

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Re: It was a dark and stormy [READING THREAD]

Post by Cowardly » Tue Jan 13, 2009 16:34

Only read "the Stand" and some other one i dont care to remember.

That one was pretty good though.

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